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  1. KowgirlKaitlynn
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    KowgirlKaitlynn - April 13, 2013 3:19 pm
    The kids need a quality environment for learning. They also need high-quality teachers. There are a lot more things that the students need. Unfortunately, everytime a levy has gone through, the funds have been redirected one way or another, and broken the trust of voters. Until they can reel in poor spending practices and deception, I still have to vote "NO".
  2. fretwalker
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    fretwalker - April 12, 2013 7:27 pm
    " nemesis and hero "???
  3. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 12, 2013 5:52 pm
    stackwrong--you proud of your nemesis and hero obummer yet ?
  4. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 11, 2013 5:58 pm
    they have been throwing money into the billings screwell system for the last 85 years and it gets worse every year----throw money to qualified instructors and supervisors from out of state to come here to replace the so called teachers,etc we have now...apparently there arent any qualified people in montana...........
  5. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 11, 2013 4:31 pm
    we need more people like chuck. his positive attitude should be contagious. great letter chuck.
  6. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 10, 2013 2:44 pm
    I'm still voting yes. makes me happy happy happy.
  7. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 10, 2013 7:48 am
    billy I like reading stupid comments. stupid is as stupid does. what else you got for me to read. mr. potato head?
  8. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 10, 2013 6:48 am
    if you ruin a tiire on a car, you dont spend money on a ruined replacement tire. and buy another ruined tire to match the flat one on the other side------you throw the ruined tire away and buy a new one.....same goes for SD2 and the billings screwell system---Lots o ruined blown out tires work there--Thats why the gummit says that SD2 is one of the worst screwell systems in the USA
  9. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 10, 2013 6:43 am
    what kind o books? comics? obummerscare rules? But I repeat myself
  10. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 10, 2013 6:12 am
    when you have a bag o potatoes, and 99% of the potatoes are rotten, sometimes you have to throw out the whole bag because the rotten stench even goes onto the other 1% who are too stupid to knowingly step out of the bag when the rotting starts and say liberals are a hoot, pieceodork............beertoof screwell is no different
  11. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 10, 2013 6:06 am
    I keep your attention stackyong, gotta love it
  12. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 09, 2013 5:54 pm
    true conservative. your comment makes me happy happy happy.
  13. true conservative
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    true conservative - April 09, 2013 4:41 pm
    As usual billmillerjr has spoken and I listen carefully. I want to do the right thing so I do the opposite of what he suggests. If he is against it, I'm for it because time and again billmillerjr has proven to be wrong.
  14. MTnman
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    MTnman - April 09, 2013 11:52 am
    Reading: You scratch the surface lightly, trying to explain curriculum problems with leftists; we have discussed them, in depth, time-and-again. You are dealing with liberals inebriated by their inbred existence; marinated within a bubble-like closeted belief system impossible to change.

    The "Blob" follows one of the rules of the Alinsky model by asking questions. They do not want a discussion. As long as they can arrogantly disrupt and continue to have the rest of us fund THEIR public school curriculum while they ask questions, then, they are happy.

    It is virtually senseless to engage their bdelygmias. As a part of the education "Blob," It is their duty to do these things. Be careful of the misplaced period or uncrossed "t" as they will try to make that the center of any discussion they want to "kill," attacking their ideological base.

    When they call you a "dangerous enemy" of "the establishment" you have won.

    Kids - YES! Levy - NO.
  15. Reading
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    Reading - April 09, 2013 9:53 am
    The schools would not and are not wanting to teach hand writing. Not printing, cursive. The history lessons include nothing of the input of the black community during the revolutionary war. The history is distorted when it comes to the contrabutions of the mexican americans during WWII. Their idea of science is to demonize every industry (specifically agriculture) when it comes to environmental science. They want to teach sex education to kindergartners. The schools deam athletics more important sometimes then drama or speech. Would you like me to go on? One of the problems is the school boards have little if any say on the materials used or what is taught. Parents need to be included in the classroom which might acually teaching them what thier responcibility is and how to fulfill it. There are no accountablity for parents, students or administration that carries any wieght.
  16. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 09, 2013 9:22 am
    billi your spelling could use some "say yes" gummint?
  17. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 09, 2013 7:27 am
    yes I do,piece--yes I do....dont whine to me about SD2---whine to the federal gummit---they are the ones who keep track and give out the info----you can try to put liberal whacko lipstick on a pig ,but its still a pig
  18. Evil Twin
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    Evil Twin - April 09, 2013 7:20 am
    I haven't seen any "Vote No" signs in naysayers yards. Funny that......
  19. Evil Twin
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    Evil Twin - April 09, 2013 7:19 am
    Piece Of Work, I doubt that they will provide the examples you ask for as they know nothing about local curriculum. I've asked before and got nothing. They are getting their information from the likes of Barbara Rush in Helena and other tin-foil hat wearers who see Common Core as a United Nations effort to collect data on the citizenry for the usual nefarious reasons.

  20. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 09, 2013 5:39 am
    Can you provide examples of SD2 curriculum that are problematic? Or are you over generalizing? By voting no on the mill levy, children will be in larger class sizes next year. How will that improve education?
  21. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 09, 2013 2:05 am
    native mt thought about it nothing you do could cancel anything of mine. yes for schools.
  22. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 09, 2013 12:59 am
    native, what?
  23. MTnman
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    MTnman - April 08, 2013 11:42 pm
    Kids YES, Levy NO.

    Why would conservatives and those with traditional values support a public school system teaching a liberal curriculum. It is not about infrastructure, books, computers, or a well-painted classrooms, but the curriculum. As they say, "It's the curriculum stupid." Fix the curriculum before getting excited about the physical aspects of the environment.
  24. ranch daughter
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    ranch daughter - April 08, 2013 11:20 pm
    $1.37 per month on a $100,000 home = $16.44 per year
  25. native mt
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    native mt - April 08, 2013 9:06 pm
    staceyronq I guess my no, no,no, no. will cancel yours out.
  26. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 9:00 pm
    Stacy, I think it is less than $10 a year.
  27. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 8:55 pm
    Granted, I am no authority on how the local school levying works. However, I have been at three community meetings where various superintendents complained about how city government gets additional revenues when the tax base grows, whereas the school district have to put a mill levy on the ballot to get the additional revenues from tax base growth. The district is capped on an amount that they can levy on local taxpayers. So it seems to me that the number of mills on the tax bill = amount that the district can levy / taxable value of all of the property. The weird thing is that the taxable value of my property (~$2,600) has fallen $112 the last two years, but the number of mills increased by 7.55, yet this portion of my tax bill fell by $8 over those two years. This is while the assessed value of my home increased by $3,000. I believe some maintenance bonds did pass for the 2012 tax year, so that is why my bill increased $5 from 2011 to 2012. If that didn't pass, my bill would be lower
  28. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 08, 2013 8:24 pm
    does anybody know how much money they are asking for from each home owner?
  29. AnotherMontanaNative
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    AnotherMontanaNative - April 08, 2013 7:41 pm
    The mill levy increases that are sought every time we turn around are absolutely based on value. They have one purpose, and we all know that it is not designed to lighten anyone's load. Nothing is "divided amongst the property owners" a you stated. Rather, the amount of mills levied is MULTIPLIED by your homes value and that is the ammount you must pay. lf the mill levy goes up, we pay more. lf property value rises, the mill levy will take a bigger bite, period. Sorry, l am not buyin' what you are sellin'.
  30. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 08, 2013 7:16 pm
    how much are they asking for? how much per $100, 000? is it really that much?
  31. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 6:08 pm
    Wundrin, it works how it is supposed to work with our children. The teacher teaches, our kids get homework, and we make sure our kids do the homework. We help the kids with the things they do not understand. For this to work, BOTH the school and the parents have to do their jobs. In my families experience, all is going well in terms of my children's education. But I have seen the district fail some parents' children. Usually, there is a learning disability involved. Sometimes in involves a gifted student. These are the problems our Trustees should be working on. My children go to a title I school, so I see many cases where parents do not do their jobs. When a child doesn't do homework and causes problems for the teachers and fellow students, then what should be done? I am a taxpayer and parental neglect is costing me money. Again, this is another issue that trustees should be dealing with.
  32. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 5:46 pm
    AMN, The district levies on my property tax bills has been quite flat over the last 7 years. From 2010 to 2011, it decreased by 10 dollars. From 2011 to 2012, it increased by 5 dollars (on an annual basis). The district can only levy an amount across the all of the properties with in the school district and that amount is divided amongst the property owners by the value they hold. As property value is added, our school taxes...on average should be going down. For the most part, I have seen this, even with the value of my property going up. If the levy is only allowed to bring in 50 million this year, then if the levy fails, the district will only get 50 million dollars next year. The rise in property values will not change this number. Increasing the number of properties will not change this number. There are no inflationary increases. If the levy passes this may, then they will take in 51 million (for example) and divide that bill up for the property owners. City taxes are different.
  33. AnotherMontanaNative
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    AnotherMontanaNative - April 08, 2013 3:49 pm
    A few words for those whom are begging us to vote for yet another tax hike. Revenue to the gubment already grows every year. That's right. . . revenue - not rates- raises every year, without anyone having to do a thing. As any new structue is built, the tax base grows. That structure is saddled with a tax bill just as every other stucture is. The more it is worth, the bigger the bill. As property values rise, our tax bill goes right on up with it, even if ones income remains flat. One would think that the beggars for more money would be satisfied with that. The trouble is, they are never satisfied. lt is high time to stop the madness and find real solutions to our problems. If the problems aren't confronted, no ammount of tax hikes will fix them. My guess is that, if the gubment would tell us how much revenue does increase without tax hikes, there would be alot less people begging for higher tax RATES, and a lot more people asking where in the world all the money is going.
  34. Jus Wundrin
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    Jus Wundrin - April 08, 2013 1:32 pm
    "Both of my kids graduated from kindergarten being able to read books."

    With your help.
  35. staceyronq
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    staceyronq - April 08, 2013 12:21 pm
    chuck I agree with you 100%. I vote yes. yes yes yes.
  36. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 10:51 am
    I am told that Rimrock Elementary school is not viable school. It is too small, so the cost of the overhead to run the school is too high. I would be open to making it a satellite campus of another elementary Highland, so the principal and other staff can be shared between the two buildings. This may be one way to re-open Rimrock. However, I suspect state "accreditation standards" would be a road block to this. Imagine opening up a satellite campus in Northwest Billings where the student population is growing? Hire more teachers, but keep the number of administrators the same.
  37. Piece Of Work
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    Piece Of Work - April 08, 2013 10:38 am the teachers at Beartooth Elementary (the school my children go to) that should be fired? Obviously you know more about what is going on in my children's school than I please share so we can request the right teachers. Both of my kids graduated from kindergarten being able to read books. If SD2 is one of the worst school systems in the country, then should my kids graduate from elementary school knowing how to do calculus?
  38. mama llama
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    mama llama - April 08, 2013 7:10 am
    As long as Rimrock Elementary sits vacan; I will NOT vote for any mill levy. Please do not sink money into the oldest schools in Billings, before reopening viable schools. Use MY money wisely. Don't invest MY technology money on big screen TV's for the hallways of the high schools when money is needed to upgrade computers used for teaching. Good luck!
  39. billmillerjr
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    billmillerjr - April 08, 2013 6:06 am
    chuckles ---the way you invest in the billings "skools" is to not throw more money into the rat hole of one of the worst "skool " systems in the country per govt figgerz----you invest in the firing of teachers and managers who dont have the education and experience ,which amounts of most of them, and hire people from out of state who do....
  40. banglajohn
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    banglajohn - April 08, 2013 5:55 am
    just a little more money and everything will be just fine. This time it will really be enough, really
  41. newt
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    newt - April 08, 2013 4:52 am
    When you were in school the schools were not expected to raise children and provide them with the care of parents. Wow four kids in the public programs! No wonder you are trying to pawn them off on the public.
  42. cme
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    cme - April 08, 2013 2:50 am
    not gonna happen. just vote no .
  43. Jus Wundrin
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    Jus Wundrin - April 08, 2013 12:13 am
    No thanks chuck.

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